I've dragged myself out of my little pond to discuss another little issue with Ryuu.
And by little, I mean huge. I'm in a pretty foul mood as well for a variety of reasons, so... Ryuu's in for another ass reaming tonight.
Yes, I'm fully aware of the jokes that sentence may or may not spawn. I can't bring myself to take them. That's too easy. However, if anybody else wants to go for it, knock yourself out.
But I digress. As the title says, Ryuu's pretty clearly a bigot in more than one way.
There were indications of this quite some time ago, though I won't mention them in detail as I've forgotten the source and basically everything but the general gist. But they were enough to make me go, "whoa, hold on there, scooter." Time's passed, though, and other things ate up the space it was using in my brain.
However, it decided to resurface pretty recently, when the lovely She-Elf brought it up in an MSN conversation.
And it hit me again. The man is beyond a doubt sexist.
How do I come to that conclusion? Well, there's a shitload of evidence so hold on to your undies, kids, as we're in for a pretty damn long ride. Which is why I'm breaking this up into a series or we'll be here all fucking week.
Look, I'm the first to admit it: in many cases, I just don't get along with other women. Why, I have no idea. There's too many potential reasons and too few years in a human lifespan for me to get into that. But despite that, I have no tolerance for this sexist bullshit. And that'd be why I'm writing this.
Subject A: His Gerudo character Rebé Anjellia.
Personally, I love the Gerudos. Graceful, fast swordfighters quite capable of holding their own in battle...
I like Zoras for their ability to breath underwater and they look so cool. Gerudos are pretty, and Hylians are pretty much the standard.
I don't know who takes the cake on that.
Oh dear fucking god, that was FAST. They beat the everloving shit out of Link in OoT and the best he can say for them is that they're fucking pretty. Hey, Ryuu? Stop thinking with your dick, okay? It'll help. A lot.
Well, maybe her bio will be better off.
Name: Rebé Anjellia
Nickname/Title: Beauty of the Desert
... Or not. I suspect a shitload of emphasis on how PRETTY and GORGEOUS she is, all of a sudden.
Physical Description: Rebé has been described as the "Beauty of the Desert". She well deserves that title. Her long, flowing scarlet hair cascades to the high-backs of her calves. Its flaring shine reflects the sun's light as it streams with her smooth and graceful movements. Her forehead is bare, having no bangs. But sections of hair hang in front of her ears and sweep down like streams of scarlet. They make their end at the lowest reach of her ribs. Her golden eyes shimmer like the sun's rays on the ocean's sunset. Her deeply emotional mind can been revealed by her eyes. Her face is kind of narrow and she holds high cheekbones. Her nose is medium-length, straight and narrow. Her chin is small and her lips are thin. Though often hidden, her lips are a slight silver, much like that of Nabooru. Her ears are more human-like than those of Hylians'. Her body continues her exquisit [sic] appearance. Her neck is thin, but not weak. Her torso overall is very slender, tone, and sexy. Her stomach as nicely trim and her back is strong. She is noticably[sic] busty, but still in good proportion to the rest of her body. Herbottom[sic] is small and her legs are long, smooth and sleek. Her legs make up most of her hight.[sic] Her feet are long in general, but they're also larger then the usual Gerudo's. Her arms are also smooth and lengthy. Her hands are big with long fingers. Her tanned skin is very smooth and soft all over. She shines in the light naturally like those who have had lotion on. Though she has a delicate display like that of a princess, she is as strong as any Gerudo warrior.
Do I win a fucking cookie? Ignoring the fact that reading that was like reading Twilight on steroids, he's gone into every shitting detail trying to portray how goddamn bangable she is. She's a warrior. Who the hell CARES what her feet look like as long as she gets the job done in battle? And 'streams of scarlet.' Good god, where's the locusts,the plagues and the deaths of the firstborn sons of Egypt? As I'm pretty sure that "scarlet streams" were mentioned in the Old Testament of the bible when the Pharaoh pissed Moses the hell off along with all those other fun things.
Anyway, moving on. Last I checked, being 'delicate' isn't good in a fight. Unless you have a death wish, anyway. 'Display of a princess?' What the hell does that even mean? "Dignity of a princess" makes sense. "Regal bearing of a princess" also makes sense. Not 'display of a princess,' as she's dressed in what basically amounts to lingerie in public and generally, fathers of princesses (those small little issues known as 'kings' or 'emperors' in most cases) flipped the hell out at that, especially in medieval times. Even disregarding that, she's a damn Gerudo. A MEMBER OF A GROUP OF THIEVES. You'd think that logically, the fragile ones would be shunned or not allowed to leave the fortress during crises due to their risk of death or something. It's not like you can go rape and pillage if you're going to fucking break halfway to the pillaging location.
Hey, does that look like a princess to you? Because it doesn't to me. It looks like fap material for Ryuu's high school fanboys.
Moving on once more... Her personality.
Personality: Rebé is very caring and loving deep down, but on the surface, she's more thought of as a wandering mind. She's been known to be someone who can't keep her thoughts here on earth. She likes to joke when she can. Laughter is the best medicine, but no number of such doses have had much effect on the reality of her painful past. She speaks her mind and there's a lot that goes on in there. Though the "jokester" is her main title amung[sic] friends, she is by no means a careless woman. She has her serious and very calm moments and she shows respect where it is due - to her standards. You can easily tell her emotions by her face and her voice. She's aware of her body being attractive to men, and sometimes she'll use that knowledge to her advantage... if she can.
I swear, that all seems like a giant attempt to justify the last sentence. If she's a Gerudo, shouldn't she be capable of initiating an ambush or something even if she's not up to direct combat, instead of just seducing people? The Gerudos are, if I'm not remembering wrongly, very proud women, so why on earth would one of their number sink to this? Besides, why just men? Oh, wait. This is Ryuu we're talking about. My mistake. Real life doesn't factor in there.
Strengths: She's well skilled in the art of Gerudo swordplay. Her slender body and skills with the desert style of dancing make her a perfect attraction and distraction where needed. she also has a strong will.
Okay, here's my biggest issue. She's a skilled swordswoman but her main skill is serving as a stripper/distraction? You gotta be out of your fucking mind, dude. She CAN fight but she would rather defeat enemies through dancing around in skimpy outfits. Yeah. That's gonna work GREAT. Assuming she 'distracts' some furious, sleazy jackass a head taller and much stronger with no self control to speak of ... It's likely she'd be in for a world of trouble.
Oh, but wait. There's more!
Even though you'd probably expect a sole Gerudo to be able to care for herself reasonably well, Ryuu's given her a bodyguard. A male, Queen Gohma ripoff of a bodyguard.
On her way out, she bumped into a massive beast named Morphious. Morphious stayed with Rebé for a while and heard her pour her heart out into her sorrows. Morphious was normally a hardened creature, but this tale softened his heart and he kept Rebé by his side. They have been together ever since.
So, basically, because of this display of sobby distress she caused a cynical, hardened... Male (for lack of a better word, as man doesn't really apply to a great, hulking mutant spider) to become soft and refuse to let her leave his side. Hokay, as a cynical FEMALE, I'd just like to point out that that doesn't work that way, jack. Ryuu's knowledge of human nature at the time the bio was written: None, clearly.
Rebé was always the kind to show off her body from the start, the one character who knew of her beauty and wasn't afraid to flaunt it some. But she was never bragging about it or came off as a show-off in the sense of constantly making emphasis with her words - she always let her figure do that for her. (What the heck, I mean if they don't notice how well she's kept herself by looking at her, words aren't gonna do squat anyway.) Not much really changed over the years, just her outfits. She's fun to make outfits for. But that was it for a while.
... That seems like one. Giant. Contradiction.
Walking around in outfits like she wears... Yeah, that's basically bragging about it. Or begging for 'indecent exposure' charges in some areas. I'm not sure. In any case, if you're wearing clothes that would logically cause people to mosey on over to you and ask "how much for anal," you have a problem.
And he basically admits she's a text-based version of a Barbie doll crossed with a blowup doll. Because of course, women can't be anything else.
This one is actually one of the few who were originally intended for LoZ. Rebé was my first Zelda-based female character and she was made at The Forest Haven. She was always a run-away Gerudo from the start, but her description said she was motherly. She never really was played that way, so her description changed to be more of a wild-spirited diva, as she is here. It was this RP forum she met Morphious, the intelligent Gohma, and the two characters have been near inseparable since, despite the fact he rarely shows in my gallery.Oh for the love of all things bubblegum flavored.
One, way to fuck up your OWN DAMN CHARACTER. Two, he still has no knowledge of human nature. Three, "diva."
There are so many negative connotations there it's not even funny.
It's now time for Vocab Lessons With Cala.
From Dictionary.com:
di·va
/ˈdivə, -vɑ/ Show Spelled[dee-vuh, -vah]
–noun, plural -vas, -ve /-vɛ/ Show Spelled[-ve]
a distinguished female singer; prima donna.
And she's a distinguished stripper (oh, I'm sorry. "Dancer") and I didn't see anything in there about her singing voice, that leads us to definition two.
What is a 'prima donna?' Also from dictionary.com:
pri·ma don·na
/ˌprimə ˈdɒnə, ˌprɪmə; It. ˈprimɑ ˈdɔnnɑ/ Show Spelled[pree-muh don-uh, prim-uh; It. pree-mah dawn-nah]
–noun, plural pri·ma don·nas, Italian pri·me don·ne /ˈprimɛ ˈdɔnnɛ/ Show Spelled[pree-me dawn-ne]
1.a first or principal female singer of an opera company.
2.a temperamental person; a person who takes adulation and privileged treatment as a right and reacts with petulance to criticism or inconvenience.
In essence? Since the first definition obviously doesn't apply here, we're dealing with a spoilt, egotistical brat. Actually... That definition sounds a HELL of a lot like Ryuu to me.
Anyway, the sobbings of an egotistical brat caused the coldness of a known cynic to break? Uh... Huh.
Later on, as my love and I got to thinking on her more, we started solidifying what she would be like in Child of the Triforce. She gained Ganondorf's TP headdress with Twinrova's giant gem on her forehead. She gained a vest-like shirt, no bra, puffy Gerudo pants and metal shoes, as well as some nice gloves and snake-head swords. Her hair is mostly down, but in certain times in later stories, it's elaborately braided and woven in rings like Shiva of Final Fantasy X. While this is an absolute keeper for her Morrowind version, it's an on-off thing for her LoZ version.
I'm beginning to run out of expressions of "what the shuddering fuck" besides, well... What the shuddering fuck?
So you're gonna steal shit from... Well. Let's count. One, two, three! Three different characters! And then he calls her original? If you're OK with this entire set-up, please go take a cold shower and think about this. If the method listed doesn't help... Well, I don't know if we can help you here.
Ryuu's blatant thievery aside... Lack of bra in a vest. With large boobs. Oh my GOD, that is a recipe for disaster.
Unless he's only seen plastic tits his entire life, he should know that if a female has anything over about a B cup... Going without a bra is a fairly bad idea. Especially if you're GOING TO BE IN A GODDAMN FIGHT. Too much bouncing around can be painful if you're over a certain size.
So overall, she's basically just Hooker Barbie to him. That's just MILDLY sexist, not to mention creepy.
In closing, compare and contrast a standard Gerudo with Rebé.
Standard Gerudo:
- Somewhat skimpily dressed, as is kinda to be expected if you live in a gigantic desert. Parkas won't be pleasant there. Still, it won't be enough to get them arrested.
- Very capable swordswomen in direct combat or in ambush situations. They're thieves.
- They're proud. This, I believe, is evident in most games they're in. If my brain isn't failing me.
- Even the evil ones are powerful: Ganondorf is an all around massive threat, Koume and Kotake/Twinrova are the last temple boss. Even the little old ladies of the Gerudo don't need a damn bodyguard.
Rebé
- BEYOND skimpily dressed. To the point where if she wore equivalent clothing in this era, it's likely she would be the subject of a sex sting due to people (cops included) mistaking her for a fucking hooker.
- Supposedly a skilled swordswoman. In practice? A dancer who serves as a distraction in battle. In other words, a stripper.
- Clearly lacks pride, as she's a spoilt brat as well.
- She needs a gigantic Gohma to keep her out of trouble. Yeah, Ryuu, way to rape everything everyone knows about the Gerudos and twist it to suit your specifications of women.
What I'm taking from this is that strong women aren't possible to him. Physically and mentally strong women capable of actually fighting. Or dressing reasonably for someone who would expect to see battle. Or not being a spoilt little child who needs a bodyguard.
Someone go wake Ryuu up. The 21st century's asking for him. Apparently it wants to smack him upside the head a few times.
Sources (for whatever reason, the HTML is being a rampaging pile of shit so excuse any dead links, etc.):
Favorite Race Thread
Ryuu's Character Lists
Ryuu's Own DA Journal
Whoa, that's a lot. When I said most of his female characters could be seen as sexist, I did not expect some fairly extensive objectification of what is supposedly a female character.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I hate to be nit-picky on such petty things, but I'm not a fan of dictionary.com. I love dictionaries. I'm also picky about dictionaries. I dunno, something about it just... eh.
I prefer Oxford's Dictionary. The definitions are largely the same (though, their definition of Diva also states: "a woman regarded as temperamental or haughty" - but the first two are just about female singers). Don't change it - you don't have to - I'm just being me and being some weird dictionary elitist.
Other than that, I have no particular commentary, except for... really, I cannot believe he focuses so much on a skilled swordswoman being a busty dancer.
As a note: I give most of my own female characters who fight small bust sizes. I have a... larger than a b-cup size, and just jumping around without a bra can be unpleasant, sometimes.
However, it is worth mentioning that I also hate bras, and I think that, as a relatively recent invention, they are not inherently necessary. But that's just what I think.
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Yeah, I didn't really realize it was QUITE that bad. I'm sorta worried about what I'm gonna find on my next victim. Though, I've yet to decide who that is...
ReplyDeleteAs mentioned, duly noted.
I wonder how he reconciles his beliefs with that. Doesn't the bible say something about 'keeping your mind pure?' It's been a while since I read that, though...
I have a couple females over C cups but they're fully clothed and well-supported, as I know how bad that can hurt when jumping around. Undergarments and two layers of shirts in one case.
Oh god, I hate bras. As useful as they are they're uncomfortable beyond words. No, they're not necessary, true. But with Ms. Stripper Barbie, we're dealing with what may be the worst potential case of nipslip since... Well, people started walking round fully clothed. One wrong move and bam. Major awkward moment.
It's just not logical to have a vest/no bra combo without so much as an undershirt. Boobs bounce, unless they're made of plastic. This will not end well for her. There's ways to do 'sexy' if he feels he has to without going that far.
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"It's just not logical to have a vest/no bra combo without so much as an undershirt. Boobs bounce, unless they're made of plastic."
ReplyDeleteWorst boobjob ever.
But, yeah. I would always have my arms crossed, myself, if I were wearing a revealing vest with no bra.
Interesting fact: Sometimes, in the desert, it's safer to wear light, but well-covering clothing, just because of the sand. It really depends on the pros and cons... 'course, I'm not a big fan of deserts, so I'll never have to balance out wearing less to stay cool or wearing more to keep the sand away.
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Haha, dayum, it's all kinds of crankytime in the Happy Time All Review. Must be something in the stars.
ReplyDeleteGood GOD, the feet in that picture! What the bloody hell, she's got some crazy dinosaur feet going on. Not to mention she's just melting all over the place in general. God damn, Ryuu draws all his feet with the same exact toes, and it's so inaccurate. I wish he'd learn how toes work, instead of just making the same icons over and over again.
I mean, I'm not good at toes and fingers, myself, but at least I'm making a fucking effort to learn, instead of just following a shittyass formula.
*cough* Tangent.
Great post. I didn't realize how deeply the objectification went, either; he just always comes off as having this noodlebrained idea of how gender works, and it's like he can't comprehend it without going to crazy (stereotypical) extremes.
But seriously, that shit about Rebe being basically an ogle factory, and her fighting "strategy" is OMG LOOK AT MY FUCKING TITS? That's just fucking offensive right there.
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To Rinku:
ReplyDeleteYes, all the stars are in alignment! Soon the Great Old Ones shall rise up from the city of Reiliegh and teach man the true meaning of fear! Cthulu F'tagh!
Seriously though we're just cranky people. Some of us more than others *cough-RINKU-cough*
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To Calamareye:
ReplyDeleteWHAT. THE. HELL?!
Seriously, what did I just look at?
Great- I'm sorry "competent" sword fighter my ass.
1. WHERE in that picture is her sword?
2. Fucking skimpy outfits are NOT Combat-wear. See how beautiful she is after getting cut up like a diced onion!
3. Where is Ryuu's usual meandering description of her weapons, arms, and armor- Oh wait, IT ALL WENT INTO DESCRIBING HOW TITILLATING ALL HER OUTFITS ARE!
And here the problem with those outfits. They're stage costumes of a definite belly dancer variety. (Belly-dance Barbie!) My Granny Terry makes belly dance costumes. almost none of them last more than a month, maybe two unless they're very basic. The fabric is too fragile for anything but dry-cleaning, and a fair amount are too delicate even for that. They're magnets for damage, stains from accidents are catastrophic to the extreme. FRAGILE FRAGILE FRAGILE.
Oh and that month? That with ideal conditions, proper care, and only being used for the stage. That's right, after enough time SWEAT destroys these things.
WHY do the Gerudo, a tough practical people who reside in a FORTRESS (a very plain one too.) HAVE something like that?
And you know what? I'm stopping right here or I can (and will) go on and on and on. Maybe I'll continue ranting later.
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She-Elf: Hahahaha, yes. That would be a terrible boobjob.
ReplyDeleteIf I was forced to wear a vest with no bra I'd hunt down some sort of fasteners and turn it into something decent as best I could.
Even so, there's light clothing for the sake of the heat and then... What Ryuu thought.
Rinku: ... Oh god, you're right. Those are dino-feet. I've never noticed those before but now they're bugging the shit out of me. They remind me of the feet on the creatures they ride on Hoth in Star Wars V, though the names of the things escape me.
Thank you much. Frankly, I'm fucking shocked she even has pants in some sets of clothing and not a thong in every single outfit.
I also love how in the artist's comments it says "We were sick of people mistaking her for Nabooru."
Well, hey, here's a novel motherfucking suggestion. Create a Gerudo from scratch instead of ripping off Nabooru and basically butchering her original personality, for chrissakes. That'll stop it.
HA! A tonton? (Ton-ton? Ton Ton? I dunno.) Great, now I can't un-see it.
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