What a shock! Fundies got something wrong! And in this case, it's the complete context of Leviticus 18:22. You know, the one that everyone and their brother likes to trot out as evidence that being gay is BANNED BY GOD or whatever the fuck the fundies think. (Yeah, yeah. I know the jury's out on them being able to think at all. Still.)
See, guys... I have a friend who was raised Jewish, is very devout and most importantly, speaks Hebrew, has majored in religious studies and has a copy of the Torah in the original Hebrew. I told her all about Ryuu. She's decided to go by Alethea, and she's kindly decided to contribute a post. As she has as big of a problem with Ryuu and all of his bullshit as we do.
"OH BUT CALA," I hear you say, "SHE ONLY KNOWS WHAT YOU'VE TOLD HER." I have told her things, yes. However, I've also SHOWN her Ryuu's own words in his deviantArt note to the kind anon. And I've read her his emails to me. She's intelligent enough to form her own opinions. She can read biblical Hebrew. She can make up her mind about whether or not she thinks Ryuu and people like him are complete asshats.
And now, in Alethea's words... Why the fundies are fucking WRONG:
Leviticus 18:22
וְאֶ֨ת־ זָכָ֔ר לֹ֥א תִשְׁכַּ֖ב מִשְׁכְּבֵ֣י אִשָּׁ֑ה תֹּועֵבָ֖ה הִֽוא
Translation: And you(masculine plural as in Israel) shall not lie (there are actually two words that mean lie here, both meaning sexual intercourse) with a male (Literal translation: being of the male sex) as you would with a woman, for it is an abomination (literally ritual impurity).
There are several ways to view this passage. None of which have to do with homosexuality.
The first way is to look at the actual writers of the text. For although the text can be ascribed to G-d, it was copied by man. These men were of the upper 10% of the people of Israel. They were educated, aristocratic men. Most likely, these men were of the priestly class and were scribes. They were not writing for the lay people who were mainly farmers. They were writing for their own. As such, only a priest would have read these words and have been able to follow them. Well, we can most likely conclude that this passage had to do with the functions of the priesthood.
The second way is to look at this passage is linguistically. The word for abomination: תֹּועֵבָ֖ה
This word is derived from the root תָּעַב
תָּעַב is translated as to loathe, to be morally incorrect, to be an abomination.
Before anyone says yes, I was right here, let me explain the term abomination in ancient Mesopotamian and Israelite culture. Abomination meant pollution. And pollution was connected to ritual impurity. But what is ritual impurity? It means you are the exact opposite of holy. You are unfit to enter the innermost sanctum of the temple to offer sacrifice or to pray. Another thing to note: only priests were allowed to enter the inner sanctum.
Now the third and final way to look at this passage has to with gender roles in ancient Mesopotamia. Men in ancient Mesopotamia were dominant in all aspects of life, including sexual relations. To be man meant you were never ever to be the passive partner in a sexual act. In fact it was an act of humiliation and dominance for a man to make another man take on the passive role. If you laid down in a sexual act you were by all accounts a woman. In theory if a man became a woman in ancient Mesopotamia, he lost all his powers in social, political and religious circles.
Now I am leaving behind scholarly arguments to enter my own personal feelings as a Jewish woman.
I grew up surrounded by the teachings of Torah aka The Old Testament. I live with its affects everyday. Torah means a teaching. Jews also call it the tree of life and the source of all happiness. It is supposed to guide and protect all who seek out wisdom and the love of G-d. For as long as I can remember I was taught that the Torah was never about punishment or condemnation of any person or group of people. Torah is supposed to teach Jews how to become better people. Some even say that Torah will teach us how to become holy in our day to day live. And I was never taught that G-d would strike down those of us with different sexualities. All I have ever heard is that G-d created all of us and loves each and every one of us. All he is asks is that we seek to be kind and generous to those around us. So what does Leviticus 18:22 mean to me? To me it means that in order to be in G-d's presence we must purify ourselves of all our cruel intentions and thoughts. We must leave behind that which is impure in order to enter the light.
Finally I shall conclude this with these final words. I have been privy to this argument that has been going on for some time due the facts I have friends who have spoken to me about it. I chose to write this because I feel that the words of Torah have been slighted by those who have little understanding of it. The Torah is not about who is good or who is evil. The Torah is about love. If the people who have used it words so wastefully cannot understand that, I pity them wholeheartedly.
Thanks much to Alethea for her time and effort! This is really informative, and I hope maybe we could do this again!
News
July 17, 2012: Enoby emerges from the blood-soaked shadows of Hogwarts' forbidden corners to officially join in our poking of a certain elephantine preppy man.
July 17, 2011: After weeks of inactivity and a pretty epic smackdown, Ryuu takes his forum offline. Oh shucks.
7.4.12
Incest: The Sequel
Oh hi there.
So I meant to get this done probably a month and a half ago. Whoops.
You may remember when I did my piece on Ryuu's picture Walk With Me that I said there was more where that came from.
Well, there is. It's called Rest Your Head, and is the Raphael/Queen Zelda version of the Serenity/Ryo squickfest.
In the interests of full disclosure, I do not like Raphael. At all. Especially after I MSTed the fucking unnecessary fanfic at the end of Ryuu's picture 'Auntie On The Attack', where he's portrayed as a sword god, despite being only able to block, slash and roll to the side. God, that was awful. (And no, I will not link you. You want to find it, you can do it yourself.)
I also dislike Queen Zelda. Despite the fact that OoT-era Princess Zelda takes things into her own hands, fucks things up and then becomes Sheik to try and help correct them, Ryuu ALWAYS portrays Queen Zelda as fragile, easily scared, delicate and oh-so-submissive.
Because the fact that Sheik went into the most godforsaken awful places and got attacked by giant undead well-dwellers doesn't matter when you're a sexist prick.
Anyway, on with the abomination--- Er, show.
Okay, we have some of Ryuu's standard tripe here. Mother and son having a mushy moment that's way too close for most peoples' comfort.
... Is he sleeping in a fucking curaiss? For fucks's SAKE, dude. One, how the hell do you sleep in that shit? Especially if it's sunny. He should be roasting like a freshly-sharted Fire Keese. Also, WHY THE FUCK IS HIS HEADBAND OFF BUT NOT THE ARMOR? Yes, that'd be creepy, but if you're gonna draw this shit anyway at least keep it logical.
And what the hell is her hand doing? Most parents DON'T CARESS THEIR CHILDRENS' CHESTS WHILE THE KIDS ARE ASLEEP, RYUU. God, you are one seriously sick puppy.
This whole fucking picture is funny as hell in a sick way, really. See, during my correspondence with him, he and his FATHER (side note: yeah, he got his father in on this. Needless to say, I question pretty much every aspect of the character of a 22 year old man who runs to Daddy for backup) said it was mommy issues that turned me gay.
But who's the one drawing parents and children in compromising positions? I'll give you a hint: IT'S NOT ME.
Anyway. Description analysis time.
Oh christ on a fucking cracker. Ew. This couldn't be any more cheesy-Christian-devotional than it is. FUCK, Ryuu. That's just... Eurgh. EURGH, SAYS I. Because all other adjectives fail me.
... WHO IS IT THAT HAS THE MOMMY ISSUES AGAIN, RYUU? No, really. You're 22 years old and refuse to be left home alone during a sickness? Uh... I know strep sucks (I had a bout when I was 10 or so) but come on. You're old enough to be alone. Unless you're throwing up so much you think the next time may be half of your stomach lining saying hello, you can prolly handle it. And why would your so-very-very-very-awesome mother PUT YOUR HEAD ON THE TABLE WHEN SHE SHOULD HELP YOU TO BED?
Moral of the story here, Ryuu has some seriously sick views of parent-child relationships, husband-wife relationships, gay people and religion. I don't know where he gets off saying that the LGBT community has mommy issues when he's got far more psychosexual issues than any LGBT person I've ever met.
So I meant to get this done probably a month and a half ago. Whoops.
You may remember when I did my piece on Ryuu's picture Walk With Me that I said there was more where that came from.
Well, there is. It's called Rest Your Head, and is the Raphael/Queen Zelda version of the Serenity/Ryo squickfest.
In the interests of full disclosure, I do not like Raphael. At all. Especially after I MSTed the fucking unnecessary fanfic at the end of Ryuu's picture 'Auntie On The Attack', where he's portrayed as a sword god, despite being only able to block, slash and roll to the side. God, that was awful. (And no, I will not link you. You want to find it, you can do it yourself.)
I also dislike Queen Zelda. Despite the fact that OoT-era Princess Zelda takes things into her own hands, fucks things up and then becomes Sheik to try and help correct them, Ryuu ALWAYS portrays Queen Zelda as fragile, easily scared, delicate and oh-so-submissive.
Because the fact that Sheik went into the most godforsaken awful places and got attacked by giant undead well-dwellers doesn't matter when you're a sexist prick.
Anyway, on with the abomination--- Er, show.
Okay, we have some of Ryuu's standard tripe here. Mother and son having a mushy moment that's way too close for most peoples' comfort.
... Is he sleeping in a fucking curaiss? For fucks's SAKE, dude. One, how the hell do you sleep in that shit? Especially if it's sunny. He should be roasting like a freshly-sharted Fire Keese. Also, WHY THE FUCK IS HIS HEADBAND OFF BUT NOT THE ARMOR? Yes, that'd be creepy, but if you're gonna draw this shit anyway at least keep it logical.
And what the hell is her hand doing? Most parents DON'T CARESS THEIR CHILDRENS' CHESTS WHILE THE KIDS ARE ASLEEP, RYUU. God, you are one seriously sick puppy.
This whole fucking picture is funny as hell in a sick way, really. See, during my correspondence with him, he and his FATHER (side note: yeah, he got his father in on this. Needless to say, I question pretty much every aspect of the character of a 22 year old man who runs to Daddy for backup) said it was mommy issues that turned me gay.
But who's the one drawing parents and children in compromising positions? I'll give you a hint: IT'S NOT ME.
Anyway. Description analysis time.
"Rest your head, my dear Raphael. Find solace and peace here with me. You travel so far and so long, full of hardships and turmoil. But here, my son, here you have comfort and love. For no matter how far you travel, you will never step out of the boundaries of my love."
Oh christ on a fucking cracker. Ew. This couldn't be any more cheesy-Christian-devotional than it is. FUCK, Ryuu. That's just... Eurgh. EURGH, SAYS I. Because all other adjectives fail me.
As Ryo and Renny showed a picture of a father's guidance, here is Raphy and Zelda to show a mother's love. This has a particular significance for me, as I'm reminded of the time last year I had strep throat and while waiting for medicine, M laid my head down on a table and my mom was petting me. She said she kind of wished she could have brought me home and went back out for the medicine but I replied that I'd have rather been out with her than be home alone. Mothers are very comforting and loving - at least, they ought to be. I know mine is. So go give your mom an extra hug today in appreciation for all she does! ^^
... WHO IS IT THAT HAS THE MOMMY ISSUES AGAIN, RYUU? No, really. You're 22 years old and refuse to be left home alone during a sickness? Uh... I know strep sucks (I had a bout when I was 10 or so) but come on. You're old enough to be alone. Unless you're throwing up so much you think the next time may be half of your stomach lining saying hello, you can prolly handle it. And why would your so-very-very-very-awesome mother PUT YOUR HEAD ON THE TABLE WHEN SHE SHOULD HELP YOU TO BED?
Moral of the story here, Ryuu has some seriously sick views of parent-child relationships, husband-wife relationships, gay people and religion. I don't know where he gets off saying that the LGBT community has mommy issues when he's got far more psychosexual issues than any LGBT person I've ever met.
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